From drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Thu Aug 21 21:18:26 1997 Received: from firewall.harper.cc.il.us by info1.harper.cc.il.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23889; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:17:53 -0500 Received: from lists.pipex.com (unipalmpipex-www.pipex.net) by harper.cc.il.us (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16237; Thu, 21 Aug 97 21:31:25 CDT Errors-To: admin-drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) by lists.pipex.com (UUNET PIPEX simple 1.29) id DAA26758; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:27:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:27:15 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Errors-To: admin-drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Reply-To: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Originator: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Sender: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Precedence: bulk From: Marissa Bartlett To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: castrovalva X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: The Dr Who Mailing List X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Status: Status: RO from Joel: >I must pick you up on one point - it was Adric who created Castrovalva >NOT the Master. Remember at the end, the Doctor says: "Adric knows . >. . he created it!". well, but my impression was that adric was the energy supply/technical competence but the master's was the directing intelligence, as it were. adric would have known the details of the creation, since he was in on the act, but he didn't choose those details. no? it seems much more satisfying that the design should be the master's: it's typicel of him to do something which requires enormous creativity and skill (like creating a whole society) but to do it for a reason like catching and killing someone. marissa b From drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Thu Aug 21 22:45:17 1997 Received: from firewall.harper.cc.il.us by info1.harper.cc.il.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25550; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:45:04 -0500 Received: from lists.pipex.com (unipalmpipex-www.pipex.net) by harper.cc.il.us (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16713; Thu, 21 Aug 97 22:58:44 CDT Errors-To: admin-drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) by lists.pipex.com (UUNET PIPEX simple 1.29) id EAA28621; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 04:57:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 04:57:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Errors-To: admin-drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Reply-To: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Originator: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Sender: drwho-l@lists.pipex.com Precedence: bulk From: Marissa Bartlett To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: castrovalva X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: The Dr Who Mailing List X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-Status: Status: RO from Joel: >I must pick you up on one point - it was Adric who created Castrovalva >NOT the Master. Remember at the end, the Doctor says: "Adric knows . >. . he created it!". well, but my impression was that adric was the energy supply/technical competence but the master's was the directing intelligence, as it were. adric would have known the details of the creation, since he was in on the act, but he didn't choose those details. no? it seems much more satisfying that the design should be the master's: it's typicel of him to do something which requires enormous creativity and skill (like creating a whole society) but to do it for a reason like catching and killing someone. marissa b